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Emerging Languages Camp Part 2: Daimio and Babel

In this exciting installment of my notes from Emerging Languages Camp last year, some information about the Daimio and Babel programming languages. If you haven’t seen it already, you might want to read the Introduction to this series.

Daimio: A Language for Sharing

Dann Toliver

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Daimio Is a domain-specific language for customization of web applications. Dann Toliver, the presernter, says that web applications should be extensible and extensions should be sharable. In this sense, Daimio is to some degree what AutoLISP was for AutoCAD. However, "shareable," in this case, means more than just emailing source files around. As best I understand it, part of the goal is that user scripts should be able to interact with each other, kind of like Core War/Redcode.

Daimio is a work in progress. The syntax and semantics seem pretty well thought-out and there is a working implementation, but there are also some unresolved questions.

Dann listed some of the goals for the language as being a smaller language then JavaScript with editable interfaces, extensible functionality, and expressible interaction. He likes dataflow languages. Dataflow here, means pipes, like:

3 | add 5

There are many more substantive examples on the Daimio site.

During the question and answer period, one of the members of the audience asked Dann if he had heard of Bloom, an experimental language from Berkeley. I hadn’t, so I looked at the site. It looks pretty interesting.

Babel: An Untyped, Stack-based HLL

Clayton Bauman

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This talk began with a political preamble about NSA spying on Americans and tech company cooperation with same. The author said his motivation for creating the language was, "to favor the rights of the user over the rights of the designer." Despite this, the remainder of the talk was technical, and it wasn’t apparent to me how his political motivation manifested itself in the language he has created. There was some discussion towards the end of supporting various types of encryption, but I don’t think that has been implemented.

Technically, it didn’t strike me that there is a whole lot new here. As the title indicates, Babel is a stack-based language. The author says it is inspired by Joy. It is untyped, but has tags.

One feature I did appreciate was that he has written in memory visualizer which creates a graph of-memory data structures from the live heap of a running program. You can see some of these graphs in the slide deck above.

Coming next week: Noether

Noether is a really interesting programming language based on symmetries in language design. The presentation was fascinating, thought provoking, and also frustrating. Come back next week to hear more!

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